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Usury 03-31-2009 12:38 AM

Romanian PSL
 
AIM has them in stock:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/R...54R_Rifle.html

TA....go get 'em...

Twisted Avatar 03-31-2009 07:45 AM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
I am pretty much torn betteween another three Mosins or grabing one of these beasts.:confused_ma:

But if the stars align on some money I am owed.

I just may grab both.

Thank ya kindly partner :ok:

T

CrufflerJJ 03-31-2009 12:16 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1654978)
I am pretty much torn betteween another three Mosins or grabing one of these beasts.:confused_ma:

But if the stars align on some money I am owed.

I just may grab both.

Thank ya kindly partner :ok:

T

These rifles are far more likely to be declared "eeeevil" in the future than Mosin Nagants. That would probably sway my vote towards the PSL.

Tumbleweed 03-31-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
Here is a link to some range reports on the Romainan PSL. I posted one of the reports below but there are a lot more. Thought it was interesting. I have one of them but haven't had time to do any target shooting with it. I shot it a few times and it does throw the casings high and a long ways away! I was out in the grass and I couldn't find any of the brass.

http://www.dragunov.net/report_psl.html




1)Romak 3 Range Report: Finally had a chance today to do some serious shooting with my Romak 3 that I picked-up from AIM a couple weeks ago. I am kind of disappointed but encouraged also. I shot about 60 rounds of reloads firing surplus BLC2 ball powder with surplus. 308 FMJBT 147grain bullets (I'm frugal/cheap, what can I say?). I luv the PSO-1 4x scope but with no crosshairs it's not a target scope (IMO) and that along with the 4x scope makes target shooting all but impossible. I used 9" paper plates at 100 meters and rapid fire. I could get 2.5 inch groups (8 round group fired) all day long but its hard to hold the same point of aim from shot to shot because of the 4x scope. The good news is that my groups were about the same size at 75 yards. My reloads had about the same performance as the Russian surplus ammo('46 headstamp). The creep in the trigger is very noticeable when firing from the bench but I don't think it's the main cause to the only fair accuracy, again I blame my lack of ability and 4X scope. Slow fire (30-45 seconds between shots) I got about 2.25" groups per 5 shots. My next move is to reload the brass with flat based 150gr. bullets and IMR 4895. Then I have a big decision, do I get the 8X POSP for about $125 or just be happy with the sharpshooter accuracy of this "package"? In almost all the 5 shot groups, 3 of the bullet holes were at least touching or better with 1 or 2 flyers that threw the whole group off. Good news, mount holds perfect zero when removed and first shot from cold barrel hits to point of aim unlike my SVT 40. Quality of resolution, ect. is on a par with my Leopold so I do plan to buy Russian made scopes in the future.
2)You must remember that the 7.62x54R uses a .311 bullet and the western 7.62 NATO or 308 Winchester use a. 308 bullet..Try to get .311 bullets that are primarily for the 303 British from Speer, Sierra, or Hornady and see what kind of results you get with that.
3)This rifle likes the Wolf 148g stuff. Conditions - windless evening, 80F, clear. Twice I placed a 3 shot group within the 1" bull at 100 yds after sight adjustment (following the insructions for calibrating the drums on the scope). Yes, more magnification helps to fix a repeatable aimpoint. Then I moved to 200 yds. and dialed in "2" on the drum - easily hit the 5" dia. gongs one after the other. The dialed in "3" and hit the 10" gongs repeatedly by simply placing the inverted V tip on the gong center. Then I dialed back to the "1.5" mark, went back to the 100yd range and again punched out the bull in 3 shots. At that point I was extremely satisfied with this rifle and scope combo, especially for the fact that the scope was so repeatable when reverting back to shorter range (100yd) from the longer ranges. Needless to say I'm a bit puzzled by some of the negative comments about this rifle - I've had no malfunctions of any kind and the performance is in my opinion almost extraordinary. But again I must say that I have only used the 148gr Wolf ammo (which is only $5.95/20 locally). The guys at the range are also impressed by how far it ejects the brass (about 15' high and 30' to the right rear), much less its very "dramatic" appearance. So, my advice is please try the 148gr Wolf ammo or equivalent (this rifle is not intended to shoot heavy bullets in the 200gr class) and also I think you'd be happier with the 8x scope for target work. I reload also but don't see the point given the performance with the 148gr Wolf ammo.
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D)I have a "Tiger" Dragunov and a PSL (Romak 3). So far, the PSL wins the accuracy race easily. The factory target I received with my PSL was a four or five shot group measuring .7 inches. I've been able to duplicate that a couple of times at 100 meters using Albanian light ball ammo. My Tiger just won't shoot as well no matter what I use in it. The PSL, IMO, is the most "fun" gun to shoot that I own. I just added a POSP 8x42 scope to it and it makes precise aiming a bit easier.
M)My ROMAK is a cumbersome, uncomfortable, badass looking gun, that is also very accurate. I was shooting mine today w/bipod, and missing the target during sight in, however I managed to knock down 6 cans w/7 shots at 100+ yrds. Didn't put a hole in one of them, but left ground scrapes under every one of them. IT'S NOT THE GUN! Practice is everything.

Igotyour6 03-31-2009 07:48 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
I think these rifles are sold on looks alone, when I first saw one I wanted it real bad, but past experience has taught me to do my research.
For this amount of spendage my LGS has an M1 Garand. Ok, it does not have a scope or a 10 round mag, but you can use 8 round clips and the iron sites are excellent, they have windage and elevation adjustments.
I think people worry they will not be able to hit something with out a scope, when in all actuality with a little practice they can do quite well.
just thinking out loud here...

bwelkk 03-31-2009 07:59 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1654978)
I am pretty much torn betteween another three Mosins or grabing one of these beasts.:confused_ma:

But if the stars align on some money I am owed.

I just may grab both.

Thank ya kindly partner :ok:

T

Tell your neighbors to buy their own mosins and get yourself a good accurate rifle in addition to your fighting rifle.

That said, I don't think the PSL is that rifle. FN makes a good quality, MOA accurate, semi auto 7.62 NATO rifle - the FNAR.

Check it out

Usury 03-31-2009 08:02 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
Yeah but can the FN shoot accurate with the cheap Soviet surplus?

I got a CZ bolt action, scoped rifle in 7.62X39 presumably for accuracy but couldn't hit shit with it with surplus ammo. For that matter it wasn't all that great with good ammo either--I got rid of it post-haste.

Twisted Avatar 03-31-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelkk (Post 1656298)
Tell your neighbors to buy their own mosins and get yourself a good accurate rifle in addition to your fighting rifle.

That said, I don't think the PSL is that rifle. FN makes a good quality, MOA accurate, semi auto 7.62 NATO rifle - the FNAR.

Check it out


Do you have a link for one of these????

Sounds interesting.

T

CQC McDuck 03-31-2009 08:32 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
These things are awesome in person. I can certainly see myself picking up one eventually. AK variants FTW!

elroy 04-02-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
I was also considering a PSL but after reading some reviews and forums I'm having second thoughts.

Maybe a PTR 91 instead. If I could find one.

NOOB 04-02-2009 09:01 PM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
For the price you can't beat a psl. Neat design and accurate as military rifles go.

The Argent Dragon 04-03-2009 12:12 AM

Re: Romanian PSL
 
I like the SVT much better if I can find one for a few $$$ cheaper......

http://world.guns.ru/rifle/svt40l.jpg
SVT-40, left side


This is the REAL deal from WW-II and 100% Russian not just some Romanian knock-off wanabe.........yeah, PSL's are cool but common as dirt and not a real Dragunov.


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